Donna and the Dogs
Ramblings of a dog writer

Nothing Left To Do But Wait

January 13, 2012 19:40 by Donna

Leah had her vet visit today, and our vet found nothing physical to explain her behavioral issues. As far as "the noise" he is in agreement with Nick and I that we shouldn't pursue further testing unless (a) it happens more frequently, (b) she has appetite changes, (c) she has bowel issues, (d) she loses weight, (e) she starts vomiting.

In regard to her recent aggression, he said the twitching and lack of tolerance to being brushed "could" be related, but he can't condone any type of brain scans at this time. He also knows of Debi, the trainer who we have a private scheduled with, and wants to see what she says when we have our consult. But he strongly indicated that behavioral meds (along with a behavioral plan) might be necessary to prevent her aggression from getting worse, which he said is often the case. Have I mentioned that Nick and I are loathe to use those types of medications, and we struggled enough with the decision to use them on Meadow?

So, we got no answers about Leah, and a warning that things might worsen. Which they appear to be.

Last night, she "went" for Meadow - merely because Meadow was chewing on a Nylabone nearby. Luckily, Leah was safely inside the confines of her x-pen, but still the incident worried me. Leah is not usually protective about toys, and it wasn't like Meadow took it from her either. Additionally, the night before that, Leah started barking at me, for no determinable reason. Surprised, I said, "Hey, Leah, what's the matter?" and she didn't even wag like she usually does when I address her. Next, I asked her for a "Sit," and instead, she laid down and ignored me.

I have to make a point here to say, I have NEVER felt threatened by Leah, and I didn't during this incident either - she was only barking and not growling, lunging, or snarling. However, it also wasn't "normal" behavior for her, and it certainly concerned me, more because I wonder if she does have an underlying neurological issue, and that it is going to get worse.

And while you're pondering what's troubling Leah, let's move on to Toby's new troubles.

On Monday while I walked Leah, Nick played with Toby and Meadow in the yard - no accidents, no falls, no slips, no collisions, no problems. Toby was walking fine after playing, and he was also fine at dinner time when I took him out to relieve himself before I fed the crew. The rest of the night he lounged around on his bed, until around eleven, when Nick made himself a bowl of ice cream.

Toby got up to investigate, and was holding up his right rear leg.

At first, I laughed at him, "Hey, Toby, did your leg fall asleep?" After all, he hadn't gotten injured just lying on his bed.

Well, something must have happened at some point or another, because although he started putting pressure on his leg soon afterwards, he continued to limp on it. Now concerned (and sorry I had laughed) I checked over his leg and found no visible injuries on his foot, and he allowed me to move his leg around with no complaints. I also didn't find any (new) lumps or bumps. But when he got up later to go out before bed that night, and yet again the next morning, the same thing occurred - he held his leg up for a few steps, then put weight on it, but continued to limp.

Since he was putting weight on it, I decided to hold off on the vet for a few days, but I put him on strict leash walking in case he twisted something - and by Wednesday night into Thursday morning the limp appeared to have completely subsided. (Phew) My vet's office said to rest him another week before allowing him to play again, and to bring him in if the limp returns.

Please pray that the limp doesn't return because Toby is already going bonkers and it's only been a few days. He does not handle "bed rest" very well and already slipped away from me last night while I was wiping his feet and zoomed around the front yard like a crazy dog before I could catch him. The good news is, he didn't limp after doing this - so I'm hoping that whatever it was, has healed. I can't imagine what might happen if Toby has a real injury and needs long term rest. I also can't imagine how bad another vet bill would be right now, especially, because, well, we just had another vet bill - compliments of Meadow.

I noticed that Meadow has started licking at her privates a LOT lately since her surgery, and then the other night she leaked a fairly large puddle on her new bed (which thankfully, is waterproof). While cleaning the spill, I noticed it looked very clear, almost like water, so Nick caught a sample yesterday and brought it in. Today, while at the vet with Leah, we found out that Meadow's urine was abnormally dilute, but had no signs of bacteria. Our vet asked us to get a clear catch sample to send out for a culture, which we also did today, and now we're waiting on the results of that.

Oh, and did I mention that Meadow licked open one of the suture sites after her stitches were removed, and of course, she chose the only area that was actually cancerous? So she is now back to living in the comfy cone while we are waiting for that, too, to heal - which seems to be taking forever.

So, not much more to do here but wait - and wonder why the dog gods are frowning on me and my crew.

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Comments (14) -

January 13. 2012 21:27

Jodi

Oh my dear, you seem to be having your share of struggles right now.  

I do have a question though, what type of food do you have the dogs on?  I ask because I wonder if she is getting too much of something (I've heard dogs can sometimes become aggressive if they are getting too much protein) or she may have become intolerant of something in the food.

When I say my prayers tonight, you can be sure you and your crew's names will be mentioned.  

BTW my word count is just over 1,000.

Jodi

January 13. 2012 21:43

Donna

Hey Jodi - It seems you were commenting over here while I was commenting over by you. LOL!

Thanks for the thought about the food, I've heard of that causing aggression, but probably not the issue in her case. Leah and Toby have both been on the same food (Canine Caviar Lamb & Millet) for several years and the protein is only around 22%.

But good thinking, cause you never know - I recently switched Meadow on a higher protein food because I read carbs are bad for cancer.

Congrats on crossing your first 1000 words! See how easy that was? Just need to do it 79 or so more times.... Smile

Donna

January 14. 2012 09:07

Amanda@Click the Good News

Oh I'm so sorry to hear this.  It's so tough when we don't know what's going on with our babies.  Growing up my dad had a weim and he ended up getting very sick when he had some issues with a brain tumor.  I hope that you all stay safe and can find a good solution for your pack.

Amanda@Click the Good News

January 14. 2012 11:48

Kelly

You may want to look into Dr. Dodds thyroid testing, as she has done much research in this area and runs  sophisticated testing for the thyroid. She is also very good about answering questions if you e-mail her.

Kelly

www.itsfortheanimals.com/DODDS-BEHV-THYROID.HTM

Kelly

January 14. 2012 12:27

Donna

Thanks Amanda, I'm hoping its nothing like that, but worried about it all the same.

Kelly - thanks for the thought. Leah actually is being treated for low level thyroid issues - diagnosed by Dr. Dodd's. Smile She's also the one we sent Toby's thyroid test to. (his was fine).

Unfortunately, (or fortunately?), Leah has had the condition for four years, and the treatment is working and her thyroid levels are tested regularly and are in the optimal range - so that wouldn't be the cause of her new issues. Good thinking though!

Donna

January 14. 2012 16:14

Teri

Yikes, you are having your more than you share of bad luck.  Have you considered some pain meds for a few days for Leah?  I wonder if she is sore and that is causing her to be nasty.  You could also consider a chiropractor visit for her and maybe even one for Toby.  We've had great success with them on our dogs.  Have you ever tried arnica or traumeel?  They are homeopathic remedies I used to give Lucy a lot in her old age and use on Riley when he overdoes things.  Seems to really help with none of the nasty tummy side effects we sometimes get from NSAIDs.

Teri

January 14. 2012 23:00

Barb

You are having a tough time of it with your brood lately and I feel for you. Leah's behaviour seems to be of the greatest concern and I hope your vet can find the reason pretty soon, without having to put her on medication.
Let us know the results of Meadow's tests; they hate the cone, but at least she wont be able to lick herself anymore.

Barb

January 15. 2012 10:10

Donna

Thanks Teri, for your thoughts. We did do a trial of deramaxx, as well as a trial of pepcid under our vet's direction in October for the strange noise she was making, and neither seemed to help. She does not seem to be in pain anywhere, my vet, as well as myself have checked her over well. I have not tried any homeopathic remedies, and my vet wants me to wait until our trainer evaluates Leah before pursuing any type of meds, so I'm going to hold off on anything like that for now. But thank you so much for the suggestions.

Barb - Yup, I'll absolutely post about how Meadow makes out. Her urinary issues have been ongoing, and they have ruled out bladder cancer with a sono, so at least we don't have that concern. Her issues seem to come and go, so I can't imagine its anything too serious. Hopefully, we'll get to the bottom of it one day.

Donna

January 15. 2012 16:24

Kelly & Dennis

Has Meadow been checked for proteinuria?  Not to worry you, but dilute urine can be a sign of kidneys  declining before kidney issues show up on bloodwork.  

Kelly

Kelly & Dennis

January 15. 2012 16:52

Donna

Kelly - They did a complete urinalysis and now the new sample is going out for a full culture...I would think that usually includes looking for protein in the urine. I'm hoping its nothing with her kidneys - and I do worry about that because she did have Lyme disease when she was captured. But on the other hand, the problem comes and goes, so I would think that wouldn't be the case if an organ is failing. We will definitely be talking all of this over with the vet when her results from the culture come back. And thanks again for your concern - it sounds like we read a lot of the same things. Smile

Donna

January 15. 2012 21:17

2 brown dawgs

Sounds like tough times.

Once Thunder turned up lame for an unexplained reason, (other than he had been playing).  We waited a couple of days, but he was still limping so off to the vet.  He did have a tenderish spot on his foot.  We all thought it was a broken toe because he can tend to run very hard on the frozen ground.  X-ray negative.  It wasn't until a few days later that I could see that he had split his toenail and it was split so high I could not see it until it grew out.  If I hadn't kept checking it, I probably would not have seen it (his nails are dark).

As for Leah, I realize you said she is being treated for thyroid, but I still wonder if the sudden aggression isn't part of that issue.

2 brown dawgs

January 16. 2012 09:29

Donna

Thanks 2BrownDogs, for the caution and your thoughts. I have checked him several times, and the limp is completely gone - but if it returns when he is off his "bed-rest" he's going to the vet for a check. As for Leah, her thyroid levels are checked regularly and are in the optimal range and have been for several years, so I don't see that being the issue with her.

Also, what I've noticed is that when her levels were off, she actually was having episodes of fear induced aggression - now, does not appear to be afraid of anything. Of course, anything's possible, but that's why we keep going back to the vet for these unresolved things.  Smile

Donna

January 29. 2012 13:30

lauren

donna, i'm so sorry you've all been dealing with this. i know i'm late to the game here, but i'm trying to catch up. i hope things have since gotten better.

lauren

January 29. 2012 15:34

Donna

Thanks Lauren - Meadow APPEARS to be on the mend, and Toby is just coming off bedrest now. Things with Leah are the same, with the exception that there have been no more "incidents" but that's only due to management. Her behavior has NOT changed.

Donna

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